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		<title>Comment on Back To You by Jed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s the artist?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing With Anger by Akankali Oge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akankali Oge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is wonderful</description>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.&#8221; &#8211; Matthew 16:24-26 by Daniel Shilina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Shilina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These few scriptures in the gospels are the most ignored in my opinion. Thanks for all your hard work in sharing these scriptures to the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These few scriptures in the gospels are the most ignored in my opinion. Thanks for all your hard work in sharing these scriptures to the world.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A fragile stone by Sherree Funk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherree Funk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently read this book by Michael Card.  And I love your insight about the contrast between the solid nature of rock and the fragile nature of the human spirit.  Peter was so lovable because he was refreshingly human, yet supernaturally gifted.  Card reveals the close friendship between Jesus and Peter that is often overlooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently read this book by Michael Card.  And I love your insight about the contrast between the solid nature of rock and the fragile nature of the human spirit.  Peter was so lovable because he was refreshingly human, yet supernaturally gifted.  Card reveals the close friendship between Jesus and Peter that is often overlooked.</p>
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		<title>Comment on He Won&#8217;t Give Up Easy by Annette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone tell me where I can get a copy of this tape?  I have been looking for it for over 4 years.  I would relly appreciate it!!
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone tell me where I can get a copy of this tape?  I have been looking for it for over 4 years.  I would relly appreciate it!!<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on He Won&#8217;t Give Up Easy by Annette Cantrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annette Cantrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE PLEASE...does anyone out there have a copy of this tape???  I have been searching for over 4 years to replace my lost copy.  I cannont find this tape.  Please e-mail me if you can help!  The name of the tape is &quot;For a Dream&quot;  I can name every song on the tape if you need the names.  Thanks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE PLEASE&#8230;does anyone out there have a copy of this tape???  I have been searching for over 4 years to replace my lost copy.  I cannont find this tape.  Please e-mail me if you can help!  The name of the tape is &#8220;For a Dream&#8221;  I can name every song on the tape if you need the names.  Thanks!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Pastors Rule the Church? by Tooafraidto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tooafraidto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for this article.  Our Church just went through a terrible time.  We had an interim Pastor who didn&#039;t want to become a pastor in our denomination.  We left the denomination and two days after the new constitution was passed, he dismissed the board and never told the congregation.  He wanted to follow 1 tim for the placement of deacons and elders but told us no one was qualified to be a deacon and he was the only elder.  After 20 people confronted him, he picked two elders--one had only been to our church 3 times.  We, thankfully were able to get our church back through a loophole.  The pastor wouldn&#039;t listen to the original board on how to vote to leave the denomination.  He did it his way which was wrong and so we were able to call for a revote and he left in a huff telling us that God sent him and by rejecting him, we were rejecting Jesus.  I really enjoyed your article and it helped me to feel better about this awful situation.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this article.  Our Church just went through a terrible time.  We had an interim Pastor who didn&#8217;t want to become a pastor in our denomination.  We left the denomination and two days after the new constitution was passed, he dismissed the board and never told the congregation.  He wanted to follow 1 tim for the placement of deacons and elders but told us no one was qualified to be a deacon and he was the only elder.  After 20 people confronted him, he picked two elders&#8211;one had only been to our church 3 times.  We, thankfully were able to get our church back through a loophole.  The pastor wouldn&#8217;t listen to the original board on how to vote to leave the denomination.  He did it his way which was wrong and so we were able to call for a revote and he left in a huff telling us that God sent him and by rejecting him, we were rejecting Jesus.  I really enjoyed your article and it helped me to feel better about this awful situation.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on He Won&#8217;t Give Up Easy by Nicole LaBoube</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole LaBoube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first time I heard this song was back in the &#039;80s on a &quot;Carruther&#039;s&quot; album. I have always wanted to sing this! 
Does anybody know if there is a soundtrack out there for it???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first time I heard this song was back in the &#8217;80s on a &#8220;Carruther&#8217;s&#8221; album. I have always wanted to sing this!<br />
Does anybody know if there is a soundtrack out there for it???</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.&#8221; &#8211; Matthew 16:24-26 by Martin Eshleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Eshleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent information. Thanks for the cited scriptures too. Too bad people don&#039;t take this information seriously. Let more people know and thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent information. Thanks for the cited scriptures too. Too bad people don&#8217;t take this information seriously. Let more people know and thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Pastors Rule the Church? by youthcafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>youthcafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God calls Christians to submit to their church leadership who are assumed to be spiritual leaders fulfilling their biblical responsibilities. That is why He gave us qualifications to use as guidelines for selecting church leaders in 1 Timothy 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 and why He told us what these leaders should be doing. 

They are to &quot;work hard at preaching and teaching&quot; and they are to &quot;rule well.&quot; The Greek word for &quot;work hard&quot; has the idea of agonizing in their study of God&#039;s Word and their preparation for teaching and preaching. Pastors and leaders who have little depth in their message or come unprepared are guilty of not &quot;working hard&quot; and, even worse, they are not spiritually growing as a result of not being in the Word very much. Many pastors will admit they start preparing Saturday night for the Sunday morning sermon and due to experience, their Sunday morning messages appear good. God says the one who works hard, the one who agonizes, the one who grows tired in the study of the Word is the one who should be honored!

The second major responsibility of church leaders is to &quot;rule well.&quot; The word literally means ‘standing before.’ It has the idea of someone being in charge. In Hebrews 13:17 the Greek words for &quot;obey&quot; and &quot;submit&quot; have the idea of &quot;to be persuaded&quot; and “yield, give way, or submit to someone’s authority.”

The person in this case is a spiritual leader. This is a command and Hebrews 13:7 tells us to &quot;imitate&quot; or &quot;mimic&quot; these leaders only after we consider their Christian faith. This means their walk with God and their doctrine is consistent with scripture. This includes their lifestyle and spiritual maturity (the result of their conduct).

I heard of a pastor who was in the middle of a controversy within his church. He was apparently the central issue. Upon being confronted by a church member he told this member that to disobey him was to disobey the Holy Spirit. It should remind us of 1 Peter 5:3,

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Neither as being lords over God&#039;s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.&quot; - &lt;strong&gt;1 Peter 5:3&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The word for &quot;lording&quot; comes from the Greek word &quot;kurios&quot; which the New Testament uses for &quot;lord.&quot; We use it for the name of Jesus - our Lord Jesus. Spiritual leaders are not to act as a lord, master, boss, or supervisor. 

As we saw in  Hebrews 13:17 above, we are to submit to the Word of Truth that our leaders teach us. We are also to submit to our leaders as they implement church discipline as outlined in Matthew 18:15-20. Scripture also encourages us to mimic the godly faith of our leaders (Heb. 13:7). Finally, we are to submit to the administrative guidelines and regulations of the church as outlined by our leaders because God has given them the responsibility of ruling well.

But there are exceptions! We are told to reject false teachers (Galatians 1:6-9; 2 John 1:7-11). We are told to discipline leaders who sin according to 1 Timothy 5:19-21 (see the example in Gal. 2:11-15). Hebrews 13:7 also implies that if a leader&#039;s life or conduct does not demonstrate godly faith, we are not to follow him. Obedience is not blind. Our leaders are accountable too!
 
Conclusion: Jesus&#039; idea of leadership is to serve others - not to be served. We humans are funny creatures who always seem to want to control others. Listen to Jesus&#039; words,

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.&quot; &lt;strong&gt;Matthew 20:25-28&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jesus calls church leaders to humility. Would it not be wonderful if church leaders started voluntarily resigning when and if they became disqualified due to sin in their life. That would spiritually transform churches and glorify God!

source:neverthirsty.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God calls Christians to submit to their church leadership who are assumed to be spiritual leaders fulfilling their biblical responsibilities. That is why He gave us qualifications to use as guidelines for selecting church leaders in 1 Timothy 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 and why He told us what these leaders should be doing. </p>
<p>They are to &#8220;work hard at preaching and teaching&#8221; and they are to &#8220;rule well.&#8221; The Greek word for &#8220;work hard&#8221; has the idea of agonizing in their study of God&#8217;s Word and their preparation for teaching and preaching. Pastors and leaders who have little depth in their message or come unprepared are guilty of not &#8220;working hard&#8221; and, even worse, they are not spiritually growing as a result of not being in the Word very much. Many pastors will admit they start preparing Saturday night for the Sunday morning sermon and due to experience, their Sunday morning messages appear good. God says the one who works hard, the one who agonizes, the one who grows tired in the study of the Word is the one who should be honored!</p>
<p>The second major responsibility of church leaders is to &#8220;rule well.&#8221; The word literally means ‘standing before.’ It has the idea of someone being in charge. In Hebrews 13:17 the Greek words for &#8220;obey&#8221; and &#8220;submit&#8221; have the idea of &#8220;to be persuaded&#8221; and “yield, give way, or submit to someone’s authority.”</p>
<p>The person in this case is a spiritual leader. This is a command and Hebrews 13:7 tells us to &#8220;imitate&#8221; or &#8220;mimic&#8221; these leaders only after we consider their Christian faith. This means their walk with God and their doctrine is consistent with scripture. This includes their lifestyle and spiritual maturity (the result of their conduct).</p>
<p>I heard of a pastor who was in the middle of a controversy within his church. He was apparently the central issue. Upon being confronted by a church member he told this member that to disobey him was to disobey the Holy Spirit. It should remind us of 1 Peter 5:3,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Neither as being lords over God&#8217;s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.&#8221; &#8211; <strong>1 Peter 5:3</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The word for &#8220;lording&#8221; comes from the Greek word &#8220;kurios&#8221; which the New Testament uses for &#8220;lord.&#8221; We use it for the name of Jesus &#8211; our Lord Jesus. Spiritual leaders are not to act as a lord, master, boss, or supervisor. </p>
<p>As we saw in  Hebrews 13:17 above, we are to submit to the Word of Truth that our leaders teach us. We are also to submit to our leaders as they implement church discipline as outlined in Matthew 18:15-20. Scripture also encourages us to mimic the godly faith of our leaders (Heb. 13:7). Finally, we are to submit to the administrative guidelines and regulations of the church as outlined by our leaders because God has given them the responsibility of ruling well.</p>
<p>But there are exceptions! We are told to reject false teachers (Galatians 1:6-9; 2 John 1:7-11). We are told to discipline leaders who sin according to 1 Timothy 5:19-21 (see the example in Gal. 2:11-15). Hebrews 13:7 also implies that if a leader&#8217;s life or conduct does not demonstrate godly faith, we are not to follow him. Obedience is not blind. Our leaders are accountable too!</p>
<p>Conclusion: Jesus&#8217; idea of leadership is to serve others &#8211; not to be served. We humans are funny creatures who always seem to want to control others. Listen to Jesus&#8217; words,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.&#8221; <strong>Matthew 20:25-28</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus calls church leaders to humility. Would it not be wonderful if church leaders started voluntarily resigning when and if they became disqualified due to sin in their life. That would spiritually transform churches and glorify God!</p>
<p>source:neverthirsty.org</p>
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